A Most Agonizing Journey towards Lambeth 2008 - Abp Peter Akinola

Church of Nigeria Website

I therefore, the prisoner in the Lord, beg you to lead a life worthy of the calling to which you have been called, with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love,  making every effort to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.  (Eph. 4:1,3)

We have been on this journey for ten long years. It has been costly and debilitating for all concerned as most recently demonstrated by the tepid response to the invitations to the proposed Lambeth Conference 2008. At a time when we should be able to gather together and celebrate remarkable stories of growth and the many wonderful ways in which our God has been at work in our beloved Communion as lives are transformed new churches built and new dioceses established there is little enthusiasm to even meet.

There are continual cries for patience, listening and understanding.  And yet the record shows that those who hold to the “faith once and for all delivered to the saints” have shown remarkable forbearance while their pleas have been ignored, their leaders have been demonized, and their advocates marginalized. We made a deliberate, prayerful decision in 1998 with regard to matters of Human Sexuality. It was supported by an overwhelming majority of the bishops of the Communion. It reflected traditional teaching interpreted with pastoral sensitivity. And yet it has been ignored and those who uphold it derided for their stubbornness. However, we have continued to meet and pray and struggle to find ways to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

The journey started in February 1997 in Kuala Lumpur. It was here,  during the 2nd Encounter of the Global South Anglican Communion that a statement was issued in which concern was expressed about the apparent setting aside of biblical teaching by some provinces and dioceses. The statement pleaded for dialogue in ‘a spirit of true unity’ before any part of the Communion embarks on radical changes to Church discipline and moral teaching.

Sadly, this plea, and several similar warnings, have been ignored and ten years later, in February 2007, the Primates of the Anglican Communion met in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and experienced an agonizing time trying to repair the Communion that has been so badly broken. Their earlier prediction at the Primates Meeting at Lambeth Palace In 2003, that rejection of the faith committed to us would tear “the fabric of our Communion at its deepest level,”  has proven to be accurate. In Dar es Salaam the Primates proposed, as one last attempt to restore unity, a period of seven months for those who have brought our Communion to the brink of destruction to reconsider their actions and put a stop to the harmful actions that have so polarized our beloved church.

With about seven weeks to go, hope for a unified Communion is not any brighter than it was seven months or ten years ago. Rather, the intransigence of those who reject Biblical authority continues to obstruct our mission and it now seems that the Communion is being forced to choose between following their innovations or continuing on the path that the church has followed since the time of the Apostles.

We have made enormous efforts since 1997 in seeking to avoid this crisis, but without success. Now we confront a moment of decision. If we fail to act we risk leading millions of people away from the faith revealed in the Holy Scriptures and also, even more seriously, we face the real possibility of denying our Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ.

The leadership of The Episcopal Church USA (TECUSA) and the Anglican Church of Canada (ACoC) seem to have concluded that the Bible is no longer authoritative in many areas of human experience especially in salvation and sexuality. They claim to have ‘progressed’ beyond the clear teaching of the Scriptures and they have not hidden their intention to lead others to these same conclusions. They have even boasted that they are years ahead of others in fully understanding the truth of the Holy Scriptures and the nature of God’s love.

Both TECUSA and ACoC have been given several opportunities to consult,  discuss and prayerfully respond through their recognized structures. While they produced carefully nuanced, deliberately ambiguous statements, their actions have betrayed them. Their intention is clear; they have chosen to walk away from the Biblically based path we once all walked together. The unrelenting persecution of the remaining faithful among them shows how they have used these past few years to isolate and destroy any and all opposition.

We now confront the seriousness of their actions as the year for the Lambeth Conference draws near.  Sadly,  this Conference is no longer designed as an opportunity for serious theological engagement and heartfelt reconciliation but we are told will be a time of prayer, fellowship and communion. These are commendable activities, but  this very Communion, however,  has been broken by the actions of the American and Canadian churches. The consequence is most serious because, even if only one province chooses not to attend, the Lambeth Conference effectively ceases to be an Instrument of Unity. The convener’s status as an instrument or focus of unity also becomes highly questionable.  Repentance and reversal by these provinces may yet save our Communion. Failure to recognize the gravity of this moment will have a devastating impact.

Scorned Opportunities

Following the 1997 warning, the 1998 Lambeth Conference issued Resolution 1.10 that affirmed the teaching of the Holy Scriptures with regard to faithfulness in marriage between a man and a woman in lifelong union and declared that homosexual practice was incompatible with Biblical teaching. At their meeting in Porto, Portugal, in March 2000 the Primates reaffirmed the supremacy of Scripture as the “decisive authority in the life of our Communion.”

The General Convention of the Episcopal Church USA responded in July 2000 by approving Resolution D039 acknowledging relationships other than marriage “in the Body of Christ and in this Church” and that those “who disagree with the traditional teaching of the Church on human sexuality, will act in contradiction to that position!”

The Convention only narrowly avoided directing the Standing Commission on Liturgy and Music to begin preparation of official rites for the blessing of “these relationships … other than marriage.”

In 2001, the Primates’ meeting in Kanuga, North Carolina issued a pastoral letter acknowledging estrangement in the Church due to changes in theology and practice regarding human sexuality, and calling on all provinces of the Communion to avoid actions that might damage the “credibility of mission in the world.” In April, 2002 meeting at Canterbury the Primates further issued a pastoral letter recognizing responsibility of all bishops to articulate the fundamentals of faith and maintain the Church truth.

In what appeared to be deliberate defiance the Diocese of New Westminster in Canada voted in June 2002 to approve the blessings of same-sex unions with the enthusiastic support of their Bishop Michael Ingham. Later that year ACC-12 meeting in Hong Kong in October 2002 approved a resolution [34] urging dioceses and bishops to refrain from unilateral actions and policies that would strain communion.

The following year ECUSA met in General Convention in Minneapolis in July/August 2003. Among their many actions they chose to reject a Resolution [B001] affirming the authority of Scripture and other basic elements of Christian faith [ ]  while approving the election as bishop [C045] someone living in an unashamedly sexual relationship outside marriage.

The Primates’ meeting specially convened at Lambeth Palace in October 2003 issued a pastoral statement condemning ECUSA’s decisions at General Convention describing them as actions that “threaten the unity of our own Communion as well as our relationships with other parts of Christ’s Church, our mission and witness, and our relations with other faiths, in a world already confused in areas of sexuality, morality and theology and polarized Christian opinion.” They also declared that if the consecration proceeds “the future of the Communion itself will be put in jeopardy” and that the action will “tear the fabric of our communion at its deepest level, and may lead to further division on this and further issues as provinces have to decide in consequence whether they can remain in communion with provinces that choose not to break communion with the Episcopal Church (USA).” They also called on “the provinces concerned to make adequate provision for Episcopal oversight of dissenting minorities within their own area of pastoral care in consultation with the Archbishop of Canterbury on behalf of the Primates.” ECUSA responded the following month by proceeding with the consecration of Gene Robinson thereby tearing the fabric of our Communion and forcing Nigeria along with many other provinces to sever communion with ECUSA.

Earlier, in June 2003, we in the Church of Nigeria had cut our links with the diocese of New Westminster and sent a clear warning of reconsidering our relationship with ECUSA should Gene Robinson be consecrated. As always, we were ignored.

During 2004 there was a growing number of so-called ‘blessings’ of same-sex unions by American and Canadian priests even though the Windsor Report released in September 2004 reaffirmed Lambeth 1.10 and the authority of Scripture as central to Anglican Common Life. The Windsor Report also called for moratoria on public rites of same-sex blessings and on the election and consent of any candidate to the episcopate living in a same-sex union.

One consequence of this continuing intransigence by ECUSA was the alienation of thousands of faithful Anglicans who make their home in the USA.  The attempts by the Primates to provide for their protection through the Panel of Reference proved fruitless. So the desire of these faithful Anglicans  for alternatives for their spiritual home led to many impassioned requests to the Church of Nigeria and a number of other provinces within the Global South. The Standing Committee of the Church of Nigeria (CofN) recognizing this urgent need during their meeting in Ilesa in March 2004 and as a result initiated a process for the provision of pastoral care through the formation of a Convocation within the USA.

The Province of Nigeria made the conscious decision to initiate CANA in the light of the following: -

    1. The undisputed alienation among Anglicans in North America created by the actions of TEC despite warnings from the Instruments of Communion.
    2. The need for pastoral care and oversight for alienated Anglicans in North America in the light of the Primates Communiqué October 2003.  “The provinces concerned to make adequate provision for Episcopal oversight of dissenting minorities within their own area of pastoral care in consultation with the Archbishop of Canterbury on behalf of the Primates.”
    3. TEC’s establishment of churches in the diocese of Europe.
    4. The consecration and appointment of Bishop Sandy Miller as a Bishop of the Province of Uganda called to serve in the United Kingdom.

As a matter of courtesy +Cantuar was duly informed of our intentions.

During the African Anglican Bishops Conference (AABC) in October 2004 the Primates present released a statement that among other things urged the Episcopal Church USA and the Anglican Church of Canada to take seriously the need for “repentance, forgiveness and reconciliation enjoined on all Christians by Christ.’’    It called on Episcopal Church USA and the Anglican Church of Canada to move beyond informal expressions of regret for the effect of their actions to a genuine change of heart and mind.

Although the Primates in February 2005 at their meeting in Dromantine, Northern Ireland, advised the withdrawal of both ECUSA and the ACoC from the ACC the continued influence of these churches on the Communion and their renewed efforts to make others adopt their intransigent line frustrated any genuine reconciliation attempts.  The agonizing journey towards unity and faith seemed unending.

The obvious reluctance of the Archbishop of Canterbury and the unwillingness of the other Instruments of Unity to effect discipline on those who had rejected the mind of the Communion prompted the Church of Nigeria to effect a change in her constitution during a General Synod held in Onitsha in September 2005.  This constitutional change not only protects the Church of Nigeria from being led into error by any Church in the Communion but also makes full constitutional provision for the Convocation of Anglicans in North America (CANA).

The Third Anglican South-to-South Encounter in Egypt October 2005 issued a very strong indictment of ECUSA and the ACoC and called for a common “Anglican Covenant” among churches remaining true to Biblical Christianity and historic Anglicanism.

Ignoring all the calls for repentance, homosexual unions and nominations for episcopacy continued in the USA with the Archbishop of Canterbury expressing “deep unease” with such nominations in California in February 2006. (Article describing reaction by Archbishop Rowan to California election is found in Church of England Newspaper, February 24th, 2006.)

A much-awaited ECUSA General Convention in 2006 proved to be a disappointment as resolutions expressing regret for the harm done to the communion were rejected as well as one that tried to emphasize the necessity of Christ for salvation. Approved were resolutions promoting homosexual relationships as well one apologizing to homosexuals for the Anglican Communion following Biblical principles.  A pledge to include openly homosexual persons was requested “of our sister churches in the Anglican Communion and Anglican Communion bodies as evidence of the apology”. Finally someone who does not regard homosexual behaviour a sin, and does not consider Jesus the One way to the Father, was elected as Presiding Bishop. The agony of a frustrated communion was visible worldwide except among those already prepared to embrace this dangerous path departing from the faith.

Nigeria needed no further prodding to proceed with the election in June 2006 and the August 2006 consecration of the Rt. Rev. Martyn Minns to give Episcopal oversight to CANA. The Nigerian House of Bishops also declared a reluctance to participate in the 2008 Lambeth Conference with an unrepentant ECUSA and Canada. (see Minutes of the Church of Nigeria House of Bishops meeting June 2006.)

The Global South Anglican Primates meeting in Kigali, September 2006 recognizing that ECUSA appears to have no intention of changing direction and once again embracing the ‘faith once delivered’ said in their communiqué:  “We are convinced that the time has now come to take initial steps towards the formation of what will be recognized as a separate ecclesiastical structure of the Anglican Communion in the USA . . . .  . . . We believe that we would be failing in our apostolic witness if we do not make this provision for those who hold firmly to a commitment to historic Anglican faith.”

The Anglican Communion Primates meeting in Dar es Salaam in February 2007 reaffirmed the 1998 Lambeth resolution and called on ECUSA (now TEC) to consider definite actions, which could heal the communion as well as reassure those who have been alienated of adequate pastoral care.  By June 2007, both the ACoC and TEC indicated unwillingness to comply but a desire to remain part of the Communion they have hurt so much. As the deadline approaches, we fail to see how these positions can be reconciled. The situation has been made even more incoherent by the decision, made earlier this year, to extend an invitation to the Lambeth Conference of those responsible for this crisis with no call to repentance,  whilst rejecting bishops who have stood firm for the Faith.

All journeys must end someday

“We are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us.” (Hebrews 12:1)

These past ten years of distraction have been agonizing and the cost has been enormous. The time and financial resources spent on endless meetings whose statements and warnings have been consistently ignored is a tragic loss of resources that should have been used otherwise. It now appears,  however, that the journey is coming to an end and the moment of decision is almost upon us. But this is not a time to lose heart or fail to maintain vigilance. It would be an even greater tragedy if while trying to bring others back to the Godly path, we should miss the way or lose the race.

     
  • We want     unity but not at the cost of relegating Christ to the position of another     ‘wise teacher’ who can be obeyed or disobeyed.
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  • We     earnestly desire the healing of our beloved Communion but not at the cost     of re-writing the Bible to accommodate the latest cultural trend.

As stated in “The Road to Lambeth”: “We Anglicans stand at a crossroads. One road, the road of compromise of biblical truth, leads to destruction and disunity. The other road has its own obstacles [faithfulness is never an easy way] because it requires changes in the way the Communion has been governed and it challenges [all] our churches to live up to and into their full maturity in Christ.”

The first road, the one that follows the current path of The Episcopal Church USA and the Anglican Church of Canada, is one that we simply cannot take because the cost is too high. We dare not sacrifice eternal truth for mere appeasement; we cannot turn away from the source of life and love for a temporary truce. The other road is the only one that we can embrace. It is not an easy road because it demands obedience and faithfulness from each one of us. It requires an unequivocal acceptance and commitment to:

       
    1. The Authority     and Supremacy of Scripture.
    2.  
    3. The Doctrine of the Trinity
    4.  
    5. The person, work and     resurrection of Jesus the Christ
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    7. The acknowledgement of Jesus     as Divine and the One and only means of salvation
    8.  
    9. The Biblical teaching on sin,      forgiveness, reconciliation, and transformation by the Holy Spirit     through Christ.
    10.  
    11. The sanctity     of marriage.
    12.  
    13. Teaching about morality that is rooted and grounded in Biblical Revelation.
    14.  
    15. Apostolic Ministry.
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These are not onerous burdens or tiresome restrictions but rather they are God’s gift, designed to set us free from the bondage of sin and give us the assurance of life eternal.

It is our hope and fervent prayer that in the coming months,  all those in leadership will be directed towards the restoration of true unity in the Body of Christ by an unconditional embrace of the One who says to all who will listen, “If you love me, you will obey what I command.”

John Bunyan, author of Pilgrim’s Progress, describes the Christian life as a journey from the City of Destruction to the Celestial City.  On his journey, numerous decisions and many crossroads confront Pilgrim. The easy road was never the right road. This is our moment of truth.

This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses.  Now choose life, so that you and your children may live and that you may love the LORD your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. (Deuteronomy 30:19,20a)

+ Peter Abuja

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  1. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Conservative leader labels ELCA decision on homosexual clergy as ‘apostasy’, Barber, policy director for cultural issues for Concerned women of America, considers the decision to be the latest in a string of anti-biblical pronouncements from liberal leaning churches:
    http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/08/conservative_leader_labels_elc.php

  2. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Perspectives: Evangelical churches to ordain gays?

    Homosexual activists have laid out a brilliant strategy to homosexualize America—and the Christian Church.

    Another reason I believe we are quickly headed in the direction of seeing evangelical churches ordain homosexuals is because of our corporate loss of shame over sin in the Church:
    http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/08/perspectives_evangelical_churc.php

  3. Father Ron Smith Says:

    When is Gary going to get it into his head that Jesus, when he was at dinner with a number of tax collectors and sinners (Matthew 9:10-13), and was criticised for keeping company with them said these words: “It is not the healthy who need the doctor but the sick”. And to the Pharisees on this occasion he said “Go and learn the mweaning of the words ‘What I want is mercy, not sacrifice’. And indeed I did not come to call the virtuous, but sinners!”

    What, Gary, do you make of that - but that we are all sinners? Only Christ was perfect, but even when he was addressed as ‘Good Master’, in his unique humility, he was constrained to question the one who addressed him with the words: “Who are you calling good, there is One alone who is good?”

    If Jesus Christ could be here amongst us as a human being today, I wonder who he would rather keep company with - those who see themselves as righteous, and therefore entitled to judge others? Or those who acknowledge that they are sinners like the rest of us?

    “What I want” says Jesus, “Is mercy not sacrifice!”

  4. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Revelation, Chapter 22, Verse:

    18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

    19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book…

    Leviticus 18:22

    You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

    Leviticus 20:13

    If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.

    Judges 19:22-24

    While they were celebrating, behold, the men of the city, certain worthless fellows, surrounded the house, pounding the door; and they spoke to the owner of the house, the old man, saying, “Bring out the man who came into your house that we may have relations with him.”

    Then the man, the owner of the house, went out to them and said to them, “No, my fellows, please do not act so wickedly; since this man has come into my house, do not commit this act of folly.

    Here is my virgin daughter and his concubine. Please let me bring them out that you may ravish them and do to them whatever you wish. But do not commit such an act of folly against this man.

    1 Kings 15:12

    He also put away the male cult prostitutes from the land and removed all the idols which his fathers had made.

    Job 36:14

    They die in youth, and their life perishes among the cult prostitutes.

    Romans 1:24-27

    Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.

    For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

    For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

    1 Corinthians 6:9-10

    Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

    1 Timothy 1:8-11

    But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

  5. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Ron, What was the attitude of Jesus towards the Law of Moses? In the Sermon on the Mount Jesus said the following:

    “Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them. For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:17-20)

    “Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven.”

    Any Father, Bishop, Priest, Clergy, individual, etc, that has blessed, condoned, advanced, approved, ignored, etc, homosexuality, man with man, woman with woman, vile affections—“shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven.”

    Ron, you and others have chosen(only self-serving Laws and Commandments to uphold, and ignored others-“relaxes one”)which path to take, now live with it, and die with it.

  6. Bara Igoniwari Brown Says:

    We in the Church of Nigeria, are proud to defend the scripture. We are also proud of our Primate in his opposition. We pray that God will protect him all through. He is a true man of God.
    Your Grace, may God bless you ja bu ra ta.

  7. Gary English Says:

    I welcome the opportunity to address the comments of Ron Smith.  You are correct that my Jesus did indeed hang out with tax collectors and other unsavoury types of the time.  Indeed he loved them equally as he loved his own.  However I do not recall a single story which affirms his collusion with their sinful behaviour.  In fact (correct me if I’m wrong father?) I believe his response was consistent - “Go and sin no more”  to infer that if Jesus were with us today he would support and provide for sinners vehicles were by they might legitimize their sin is to say the least laughable.  Dear Ron do not mistake my words for anger I know that Jesus loves you I cannot do less.  I pray for your eyes to be cleared and your ears to be opened that you might find the truth that is Our Lord Jesus.

  8. Father Ron Smith Says:

    No, Gary English! Jesus did not, nor does he legitimise our sins. What he has done, through the Cross on Calvary, is offer himself as an Offering, once and for all, in propitiation for the sins of the whole world.

    We are all aware that Christ died for sinners, and that means all of us. I think the real problem in today’s Church is that we are still, like the Pharisees, trying deperately to put sin into categories which suit our particular mind-set or world-view. Human sexuality (God-given) is perhaps the most humanly-misunderstood area of our common life, and therefore subject to the close scrutiny of many religious purists.

    One of the statements of Jesus was that that:
    “When the (Holy Spirit) comes, he will show the world how wrong it was, about sin, and about who was in the right, and about judgement”.(Jn16:6)
    It would seem, then, that after Pentecost the world would come into a greater understanding of what sin really is, and whose task it was to deliver right judgement - through the ongoing work of the Holy Spirit of God.

    Is it at all possible that previous understanding of what comprises sinful actions & attitudes
    was in some way imperfect, and that the Church in the world (as advised here by Jesus himself)needed to be opened up to further and ongoing revelation and education on such matters? For instance, slavery and the subjugation of women were concepts seen as compatible with faith in a loving God in Old Testament theology. Does this mean that we still have to abide by all the edicts of Leviticus and Deuteronomy (and Paul, at his most mysoginistic period) in today’s modern world?   

    The act of women menstruating was once considered to be spirituaslly defiling, and the woman had to be separated out from the community for a time. Was the act of menstruation considered by God to be evidence of sin on the part of the woman?

    Also, even in the New Testament (as witness the Purification of the BVM) every woman had to submit to a ritual purification after childbirth. This ceremony, in the enlightened liturgy of the Church, has now been changed to a ceremony of “Thanksgiving for Childbirth’. Is that not a change in emphasis about what once was considered to be a need for an office of repentance for the natural (sinful?) act of procreation?

    Jesus seemed to reserve his severest criticism for the Pharisees - doubtless ‘religious’ but more inclined to consider themselves qualified to judge the actions of other people - while yet overlooking their own faults. What might Jesus think about the action of the Global South prelates who have exported their own jurisdiction into the affairs of other legally constituted Churches? Is CANA, do you think, God’s best way of promoting his Law of Love in the United States of America? - as a direct intervention by a foreign ecclesiastical power? One might ask the question? Is this a matter of territorial ambition (a power issue) or a spiritual caretaker move - albeit without the legitimate authority of the local Church?

  9. Tom Inglin Says:

    Father Ron Smith

    The Church is till not convince that what is traditionally taught and undertood as sin can be called holy or blessed. The widespread reaction to Gene’s consecration should be a clear indication.

    The ramifications of doing so is horrifying and many societies won’t want to take the path that yours is taking and the capitulation of the Anglican church’s role (weak, anaemic, c ompromised and without faith conviction - and sometimes effeminate) is an example the rest of us will not and must not follow.

    This is the basic issue. All else you are saying, many Christians can agree with…and practicing it too. 

    Rev Inglin

  10. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    ‘The Gay Invention: Homosexuality Is a Linguistic as Well as Moral Error’:
    http://www.anglican-mainstream.net/?p=2012

  11. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    The Gay Invention
    Homosexuality Is a Linguistic as Well as a Moral Error:
    http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=18-10-036-f

  12. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    ‘Gay Gene’ Conclusions = Bad Science
    August 16, 2007 – Dr. Douglas A. Abbott, professor of Child, Youth & Family Studies at the University of Nebraska, has just published “Myths And Conceptions About Behavioral Genetics And Homosexuality” on the National Association for Research & Therapy Of Homosexuality (NARTH) web site.


    Dr. Abbott describes the relationship between genes, behavior and homosexuality. He makes the following comments:

    … there is no evidence of a direct causative link between a single gene and complex psycho-social behavior such as sexual preference.

    …there is no undisputed evidence that same-sex behavior is hard-wired in the brain.

    http://www.narth.com/docs/080307Abbott_NARTH_article.pdf

  13. Gary English Says:

    Brother Ron your last commentary is without fault in my estimation, especially the opening sentence.
    ....We can strive to do no less.

    In Christ - Love
    gary

  14. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Albert Barnes’ Commentary on Romans 1:
    http://americansfortruth.com/news/albert-barnes-commentary-on-romans-1.html#more-1436

  15. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Socialist, Liberal German Government Publication Promotes Incestuous Pedophilia as Healthy Sex Ed
    Micheal O’Brien, author on crisis of culture in West, says this “German state intervention in family life is a new level of auto-destruction”:
    http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jul/07073008.html

  16. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Socialist, Liberal New York Times equates ‘Allah’ with ‘God’
    Newspaper substitutes name of deity in airport bomber’s motive:http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57280

  17. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Socialist, Liberal New York Times equates ‘Allah’ with ‘God’
    Newspaper substitutes name of deity in airport bomber’s motive:

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57280


    Next, from the Socialist immorallity capital of Europe—Bishop urges Christians to call God ‘Allah’ Catholic leader believes it would help ease tensions between religions:

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57178

    Maybe we can start calling Christian Churches—Mosques


    The Socialist Liberals have their orders, now they are following through on their talking points.

  18. Gary English Says:

    Mr. Gary Morrow

    Hi Gary I hope you realize that the quote from Desiderata “the universe is unfolding exactly as it should” I would paraphrase it and say this; “all creation is completing itself exactly as the Creator intended”.  Praise God and His precious Son through the empowerment and strengthening of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

  19. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Mr. Gary English

    Yep, our prayers are not always answered in the way we expect them to be.

  20. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    ‘Gay’ lessons violate civil rights, man says
    Case of dad handcuffed and jailed for objecting moves to appeals court:

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57298

    Socialist State, School Board, Judge, handcuffs (persecutes) Christian for protecting his Children from Homosexual indoctrinations(reeducation camps).

  21. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Prophecies of Daniel:
    Why they point to us
    Exclusive: Hal Lindsey interprets Bible verses
    about ‘going to and fro,’ ‘increasing knowledge’:

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57297

  22. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    “The Global South has become the focus of Christianity just as it found focus with the gentiles in the Pauline era…”:

    http://www.livingchurch.org/publishertlc/viewarticle.asp?ID=3770

    link originated from:

    http://www.kendallharmon.net/t19/

  23. Paul J Johnson Says:

    God be praised! As one in the 9th decade of life , never could I have imagined in my evangelically raised youth that out of those “heathen” areas we supported with our dedicated giving to “preach the word of God” would redound to our everlasting benefit with the call to true Christian behaviour in the church. Thank God for the Christian leadership provided by our African brothers for regardlessof which path is chosen at this fall’s Lambeth Conference God will prevail, the Holy Spirit will lead and direct and “all is well for those who love the Lord!

  24. Father Ron Smith Says:

    Dear Paul, Thank you for your doubtlessly earnest congratulation on the Global South Church leadership, which is so obviously intent on splitting the Anglican Church into two segments: Law versus Gospel. Even Saint Paul was not prepared to insist on the pre-eminence of the first against the second. Neither must we, who claim our inheritance as Christians, ever seek to elevate our own sense of purity against that of our Saviour Jesus Christ.

    As Bishop Desmond Tutu - that exemplary African churchman has said recently: “Jesus said, I, when I am lifted up, will draw all people to myself”: Not, as the good bishop reminds us - just the pure and the good, but all, ALL PEOPLE - even the Archbishops of Nigerian and Uganda, who seek to overthrow the legitimate leadership of the holder of the See of Canterbury, via whom their primatial authority was bestowed on behalf of the world-wide Anglican Communion.

    If there is to be a new ‘Church’ to be formed out of all of this, then let it be called something other than Anglican - a title of some dignity up to this point in time, and which has upheld the liberty of the Gospel to embrace ALL people!

  25. Gary English Says:

    Ron Smith
    Dear Ron once again you are almost right. When our Lord and saviour IS lifted up he WILL draw all people to himself including sinners. He will not acknowledge, support or forgive those sinners who will not seek repentance and walk in His ways.  Consider brother, the separation of the wheat from the chaff both are drawn up but only one is kept.
    In Christ -love gary

  26. Father Ron Smith Says:

    Dear, dear Gary, thank you for your kind condescension. I’m glad to be ‘almost right’. So often we who support the gays in the Christian community are accused of being totally wrong, that it is a pleasant surprise to be accounted ‘almost right’!

    Perhaps you need to read Leviticus 15:31-35, in order to assess the Old Testament understanding of sexual impurity. This might then give some insight into the early biblical attitudes towards human sexuality.

    It is precisely this sort of pre-Christian and out-dated theology of sexuality that informs the attitudes of present-day moral crusaders against gays in the Church. Our Blessed Lord’s emphasis in ministry upon charity and love - in the place of bigotry and condemnation of others different from ourselves - was precisely why he was condemned to death by the Scribes & Pharisees.

    As for repentance, I do agree that this is needful for one to enter into the fulness of the redemption that Christ has secured for us. But first of all, we need to be aware of what Jesus might have considered to be sin. Modern science has afforded us evidence of genetic differences between hetero- and homo-sexual human beings. To insist on turning a blind eye to human nature in all its fullness is tantamount to declaring God to be the Creator of something less than good, when Scripture tells us that all that God created is good. How can we declare something that God has created to be less than good?

    Perhaps the prelates of Global South need some lessons in human biology to come to an enlightened understanding of the infinite and wonderful diversity of the human species.

    The fullness of our humanity was taken upon himself by no less a person than Jesus, who thereby restored our lost innocence. In his loving acceptance of everyone - regardless of their known and unknown sins - (even the Scribes and Pharisees were not outside his compassion - except where they doggedly and relentlessly pursued their programme of anathema against those whom they considered to be less than holy).

    While we are talking about repentance (of which we are all in need), perhaps afficionados of the ‘Gospel’ of the Global South need to sit back and consider their own transgressions in the current climate of their growing thirst for division in the Body of Christ. This is certainly not “Good News” for the world-wide Christian community. The true Gospel is something else. We all need to remember the basic meaning of the word ‘Gospel’, which is ‘Good News’. May the Church always seek the Christ in others, where the secular world may seek to devalue Him.

  27. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Ron Smith’s “All PEOPLE” Anglican Church. Hypothetically speaking, Ron Smith looks out over his congregation and says, “We have fought hard and have won. Stand up my Children of God, and proudly proclaim yourself before God.”

    The first person stands and states proudly:
    Hi, I am a Gay Christian!!!
    The next person stands and states proudly:
    Hi, I am a Lesbian Christian!!!
    Then, a wave of euphoria takes over:
    Hi, I am a Adulterous Christian!!!
    Hi, I am a Pedophillia Christian!!!
    Hi, I am a Sexual Sadist Christian!!!
    Hi, I am a Transsexual Christian!!!
    Hi, I am a Bestiality Christian!!!
    Hi, I am a Prostitute Christian!!!
    Hi, I am a Homosexual Christian!!!
    Hi, I am a Exhibitionist Christian!!!
    Hi, I am a Group-sex Christian!!!
    Hi, I am a Polyamist Christian!!!
    Hi, I am a ........Christian!!!

    Lambeth Conference meeting in the year 2057, with a painted picture of Gay Bishop Gene Robinson, and Female Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori hanging on the walls—donated by Ron Smith.

    The meeting has opened, and everyone is encourage to proudly proclaim themselves before one another:

    Hi, I am an Adulterous Bishop!!!
    Hi, I am a Pedophillia Bishop!!!
    Hi, I am a Sexual Sadist Bishop!!!
    Hi, I am a Transsexual Bishop!!!
    Hi, I am a Bestiality Bishop!!!
    Hi, I am a Prostitute Bishop!!!
    Hi, I am a Homosexual Bishop!!!
    Hi, I am a Exhibitionist Bishop!!!
    Hi, I am a Group-sex Bishop!!!
    Hi, I am a Polyamist Bishop!!!
    Hi, I am a ........Bishop!!!

    Remember, if you accept one(homosexual,female Bishop),then you have to accept them all,or be pronounced as bigoted, phobic, discriminatory, mean-spirited, unenlightened, sexist, heartless, hater, ignorant, conservative, etc.

    Why Socialist,Liberals,Progressives Always Protect Perverts:
    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/KevinMcCullough/2007/08/26/why_liberals_always_protect_perverts

  28. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Bishop Gene: I. Gay Priests, Cowardly Bishops & the Church’s Survival-From Lisa’s Lookout:
    http://www.anglican-mainstream.net/?p=2017

    Bishop Gene: II. That Exasperating Nicene Creed-From Lisa’s Lookout:
    http://www.anglican-mainstream.net/?p=2019

  29. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Heresy Precedes Homosexuality:
    http://www.albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=990

    Speaking in an interview in London, Bishop Gene said: “I have met so many gay partnered clergy here and it is so troubling to hear them tell me that their bishop comes to their house for dinner, knows fully about their relationship, is wonderfully supportive but has also said if this ever becomes public then I’m your worst enemy.”

    ...‘That’s right. It’s very interesting. As I look back on this – and perhaps it has something to do with the theology of the episcopate – ECUSA has been ordaining gay priests for many, many years. Not every bishop will do that but many do. I will and have. Many make a requirement that the person be celibate, but many do not make such a requirement. It’s interesting that the wider Anglican Communion has either not known that or has not chosen to make an issue of it before now. I understand that a bishop is understood to be ordained for the whole church, although that’s true for the priesthood as well. One is a priest of the church and provided they are a priest of good standing, they can exercise their ministry anywhere in the world. It’s just a surprise to me that this issue did not become an issue until a gay and lesbian person became elected bishop. If it’s wrong for one (bishop and priest) it ought to be wrong for both. Bishops have a certain importance, but it’s just an importance that the church has given them. It’s not an innate importance. So it either ought to be wrong for all orders of ministry, or for none.”

    European Churches are lost, and rotten to the core.

  30. Father Ron Smith Says:

    I might have known that the last two comments were posted by your perennial blogger Gary Morrow. His epithets - usually quotes from someone else (if not his version of the Scriptures) - betray the sort of blind prejudice that have characterised much of the material he has contributed so far to what one had thought was a serious discussion of theological issues on your web-site,

    If argument is reduced to this level of pure invective, then perhaps one can no longer refer to the Global South Anglican web-site for serious discussion on anything.

    As a life-time Anglican, I regret that our historic Church should ever have to be brought to account by the sort of emotional blackmail that seems to be perpetuated by opportunistic and power-hungry purists, whose sole obejctive seems to be the downfall of world-wide Anglicanism.

    However, this is God’s Church. The Holy Spirit is still its chief teacher and advocate, and it will not be high-jacked by missionary clergy and bishops from foreign provinces trying to under-mine its lawfully constituted authority.

    Take care that the benign influence of the historic See of Canterbury is not replaced by the autocratic rule of Nigeria and Uganda - at least in those parts of the Church that are willing to be part of the G.S.‘s isolationist policy.

  31. Gerry O'Brien, Newfoundland, Canada Says:

    I find it interesting that the majority of comments on this Blog are from Gary Morrow and Mr. Smith (yes, that’s right, MR. Smith, not Reverend Smith because I don’t recognize Mr. Smith as a man of God).

    If only Mr. Smith would go back to the article that precedes this set of blogs and then just plain read it and absorb it and learn from it, then Gary Morrow would not have to be throwing newspaper articles URL’s at Him to try to get his attention. 

    Mr. Smith, I would think that you cannot now, not likely ever did and most likely never will, UNDERSTANT the importance of what + Peter Akinola is saying.  I’m convinced that the more that the gay community and the gay supporters carry on with the perverted theme of their christianity the more oblivious they become to the Truth.  The Supremacay of Scripture is to them nothing short of being hogwash and all they can stand on is the simple statement “What would Jesus do?”..... Then when they are directed to the Truth (The Old Testament Books and the New Testament Books) they simply say, “Well, I don’t like that part so I’ll just change it.”

    Ron Smith, why don’t you go and peddle your perverted sense of thinking elsewhere, OR, Better Yet, be like Hank Williams used to sing about and “See the Light”!

    Thank God for people like ArchBishop Akinola and for The Global South and the Southern Cone.  Thank God that those “heathen peoples” that the Truth was carried to by the European and North American Churches now HAVE THE COURAGE to stand up in the faces of the perverted European and North American Churches and STAND ON THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD.

    Please, Anglican Church of Canada, turn back and repent and get things straight in the total sense of the word.  TEC, I believe that it is too late for you to “straighten” yourselves, the Hollywood syndrom of perverted sexuality has carried you into an abyss that you will not climb out of.

  32. Father Ron Smith Says:

    But is the article really the work of Peter Akinola? Or is it really the work of Mr. Minns?

  33. Gerry O'Brien, Newfoundland, Canada Says:

    Ron:
    I guess that about sums up your logic when you run out of arguments…..pass the buck or blame someone else…..tsk…tsk..tsk.

  34. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Yesterday, I read over again Ron Smith’s numbered 24 posting, when something jumped right out in front of me. I said to myself, “Self, why does Ron Smith ascribe to Desmond Tutu in his posting”. Ron continued, “As Bishop Desmond Tutu - that “”exemplary African”” churchman has said recently: “Jesus said, I, when I am lifted up, will draw all people to myself”: Not, as the good bishop reminds us - just the pure and the good, but all, ALL PEOPLE - even the Archbishops of Nigerian and Uganda, who seek to overthrow the legitimate leadership of the holder of the See of Canterbury, via whom their primatial authority was bestowed on behalf of the world-wide Anglican Communion.”

    Then it hit me-let’s go back to and remember those “not core” sexual issues pronounced by Dr Sentamu on behalf of Archbishop of Canterbury, Williams, commented on by me—“Dr Sentamu, a close ally of Dr Williams, said that as long as Anglican bishops did not deny the basic Christian doctrines they should all be able to remain within the same Church.” [In other words-any pervert can be a bishop, lay, etc just as long as you don’t deny the “basic” Christian doctrines”] You have got to be kidding. “While liberal north Americans disagreed with conservatives over sexual ethics, these were not core issues, he said [In other words-we Socialist Liberals Dr. Williams, Sentamu, Canterbury have no problems with homosexuality or other sexual orientations(“sexual ethics”), that conform with Modern English laws(political correctness), Here you have it folks. They are telling you who they are—Modernist. Who cares what God’s Laws and Commandments are-we at Canterbury consider things in the Bible that address sexual immorality and other issues sic as “not core issues”. Canterbury will define what core issues are and if you don’t like it-we will smite thee].

    Recently, Desmond Tutu , receiving his marching orders from Canterbury(England), had this to say:  http://www.anglican-mainstream.net/ , “Be united and let Jesus smile again, begs Dr Tutu”,  http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/content.asp?id=43487  , “…accept one another, and agree to disagree…, …put aside their differences in order to deal with the world’s troubles…, …“bewildering diversity” of God’s creation: “None is self-sufficient, but all are made for interdependence, each making up what is lacking in the other. In a world where difference has led to alienation and even bloody conflict, the Church is God’s agent to demonstrate that unity in diversity is in fact the law of life…., …its inclusiveness, its catholicity…, …. . We have been known to embrace within this one family those whose views were almost diametrically opposed. We said: ‘I disagree with you but we belong together…,…He then addresses the Archbishop of Canterbury directly: “Please invite [to the Lambeth Conference] ALL those in Episcopal orders who are not retired, even those irregularly consecrated or actively gay…[here, Canterbury throws in a bone for Archbishops of Nigeria, and Uganda].

    It’s the same old revisionist, not core sexual issues recycled, repackaged in a glorified manipulative form from Canterbury hoping that Tutu can bamboozle the Global South Primates. Just look at those Liberal tones in Tutu’s Press Release-bewildering diversity, law of life, inclusiveness, unity in diversity, Then Tutu has the Gaulle to imply that god created Homosexuality, and Vile affections-God’s Creations. Did God create Sin or did it start in Eden, Tutu? [In other words—anything goes, forget those parts of the Scripture where God was being bigoted and unenlightened about sexual lifestyles. God did not know what he was talking about.]

    TuTu has had a history of supporting Socialist, Marxist, Communist causes, When you hear TuTu, you also hear Nelson Mandela—“Tutu endorsed Marxism, foreign sanctions, abortion and every evil you can name,” said Harry DeBrand, a carpenter from Constantia, a Cape Town suburb. “ANC should stand for ‘Abortion, Necklacing and Communism.’ There is no peace in this country. Crime, murder, rape are out of control. White farmers and their children are being tortured, massacred, raped and mutilated. What on Earth is happening?”

    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27392 , from the Jewish Task Force:

    http://www.jtf.org/israel/israel.nazi.bishop.tutu.htm  .

    Yes, Ron Smith, birds of a feather, do flock together.

  35. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Here you go people-the Socialist Governments are now in charge and the head of the Churches: http://www.anglican-mainstream.net/?p=2025

  36. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Some where down the line, a choice will have to be made by God’s children—Obey? Bible says yes, if government’s ‘good’
    ‘No civil rulers should be followed if orders inconsistent with God’s’:  http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57251

  37. Gerry O'Brien, Newfoundland, Canada Says:

    Ron Smith:
    The article written by ArchBishop Akinola, could easily have been written by Bishop Martin Mynns BUT what difference would it make except that +Akinola is in much more authority in the Global South.  Regardless of the Author, the words written are correct.  Just read the words Ron, then try to digest them and understand them…when you have that done, be like the rest of us, get down on your knees and repent and mean it and watch the wondrous miracles that will take place in your life. 

    Gary Morrow:  I don’t know how much time you have spent collecting all of your data base URL’s, but you have done a wonderful job.  Keep up the fight.
    Bless You.

  38. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Dear Gerry O’Brien:
    Thanks for your word of encouragement and your help in fighting Evil.

    “God’s Word asks, “If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?” (Psalm 11:3 NKJV). The answer is simple…we can preach (Matthew 28:19–20), we can pray (2 Chronicles 7:14), we can expose the lies (John 3:20; Ephesians 5:11), and we can replace the lies with truth (John 3:21). Christ promised that a foundation built on a rock will stand (Matthew 7:25)!”

    ...we can expose the lies…, socialist news print can no longer control information, nor feed the masses misinformation. God has given man the ability to use the internet for a purpose other than Evil.

  39. Gary English Says:

    I find it curious we haven’t heard from the woman folk.  Of course you have to give them credit they know when to keep quiet….sometimes.

    Gentlemen lets go back to Christianity 101.  Naw that’s already corrupted.  Grade school. Nope, already man has applied his “wisdom”  I guess that leaves Sunday school and just to be on the safe side lets say the first day thereof.

    The Italians have a wonderful saying “Distance lends perspective”

    The military the moralists and the philosophers the politicians all have one thing in common.  In the end they strive for the high ground. That is physically, morally, mentally and politically. It is interesting to note that in all four groups only half obtain their goals.
    Christians know there is no high ground to strive for.  Our Champion, High Priest, King, and God sits comfortably Watching His Creation unfold to its conclusion.  Having once and for all time conquered the high ground for us.

    Let us all step back.  let’s recognize “The way”.
    let’s identify ourselves and the path set for us.
    and finally join with our brother John and cry -“even so come Lord Jesus”.

    may God bless all of you.

    gte - Toronto

  40. Gerry O'Brien, Newfoundland, Canada Says:

    Dear Gary English:

    The womenfolk have spoken, not all of them have spoken out the way one has (Jeffers-Shorri..If I have that spelled wrong, forgive me), but notice that I have not referred to her as the presiding Bishop of TEC.  She has spoken loud and clear on behalf of the evil one that presides within her.  There are many women and I know many of them who are as against Jeffers-Shorri, TEC and what is going on in the Anglican Church of Canada as am I and so many others.  I find it incredible that evil can be so dominant in TEC as to elect her to the position which she holds.  UGH!!!

  41. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Integrity President Susan Russell. “The inclusion of the Very Rev. Tracey Lind on the list of five extraordinarily qualified candidates for Bishop of Chicago is a bold step forward and a sign of hope and encouragement not only to LGBT Episcopalians but to the whole church:
    http://www.kendallharmon.net/t19/index.php/t19/article/5383/

    That is Socialist Liberalism for you-in your face. If you don’t like it-they will give you more. If you don’t like more-we will give you even more. If you don’t like even more-we will give you even even more. Take that. Take that. How about this. Oh, Yea…how about this. We are going to give you more until you cry uncle. Now, there.

  42. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Oops, I have got to make a correction to post 27.

    Hi, I am a LGBT Christian!!!
    Hi, I am a LGBT Bishop!!!

  43. Father Ron Smith Says:

    Dear Gary (Morrow, there seem to be so many Garys on this web-site - what is it about the name that marks one out?), thank you for your last posting.

    I had not realised that you - as you so clearly state in your posting here shown above - are:

    1. An LGBT Christian, and

    2. An LGBT Bishop.

    You were not, by any chance ordained by the Provincial bishops of Nigeria or Uganda were you?
    I had never thought of you as part of the LGBT Underground, but thank you for coming clean.

  44. Gerry O'Brien, Newfoundland, Canada Says:

    Ron:
    You really are something else.  More nerve than a bad toothache.  There are none so blind and none so deaf as those who choose not to see or hear.  Enough said.

  45. Gary English Says:

    I think you guys missed my point.

    In any event may he who offered refreshment from heavy burdens let His light shine upon you all.

    yep u2 Ron by the way a little trivia
    Gary - A brave soldier. From the Italian Garibaldy

  46. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Ron:
    So you are one of those kind of thinkers—when a woman says no, she really means yes.

  47. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Teacher Calls School Use of Profane ‘Angels in America’ an ‘Arrogant Challenge to Conservative Parents’:
    http://americansfortruth.com/news/teacher-calls-school-use-of-profane-angels-in-america-an-arrogant-challenge-to-conservative-parents.html

    What kind of Socialist Liberal indoctrination did your child learn in a Government reeducation camp today?

  48. Gerry O'Brien, Newfoundland, Canada Says:

    Gary English:
    I really don’t feel that either Gary Morrow or myself missed your point, one which was well taken. 

    We all need to step back and repent and turn from our wicked ways and only then will God hear our prayers and only then will he heal our lands.

    The one who is missing all the points and only because of perverted blindness and perverted thinking is Ron Smith.  Like I said earlier, he has more nerve than a bad toothache and I should have added, his and the approach of his likeminded fellows/women approach is causing much more pain and destruction than the toothache.

    Gary Morrow, and others, I am not convinced that we should any longer even entertain responding to the evil one as we are only giving him the recognition he wants and fueling his fire of damnation.

  49. Father Ron ASmith Says:

    Gerry O’Brien,

    Despite your protestations of faithfulnesss to the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, I, and possibly others who access this web-site, find your easy tendency to condemnation of others - who do not share your narrow interpretation of the Gospel - somewhat reeking of hell-fire, rather than the incense of lowliness, which is essence of all true believers in the ‘Good News’ of Christ.

    Your ever-readiness to consign others to the hell-fire of your own making will need to be remedied if, indeed, you would like to be considered a licit proclaimer of the Gospel.

    One of the most important issues in this whole power struggle between the advocates of the Global South and the rest of us is that, although ECUSA is being blackmailed to adhere to what amounts to the demands of the Global South for ‘purification’; its own clerics of the Global South - including an imported ‘bishop’ from the Church of Nigeria - are defying the requirement of the Tanzanian Conference to ‘butt out’ of the legally constituted affairs of other provinces.

    This paradoxical attitude on behalf of the G.S. will need to be resolved before any resolution can be found for the present conflict in the Church. If GS has any regard for due order in the Church, then it must back off from interference in the mission of other provinces.

    When Christ prayed for unity in the Church, he already knew that hubris on the part of its future leaders would militate against hie intentions. “In my Father’s House are many mansions”. In creation are many diversities! Who are we to judge others? The speck and the plank are still a problem, but who will dare to throw the first stone.  That’s me out of it.

  50. Sleepy Old Bear Says:

    The Rev Smith continues the litany of ignorance about homosex which is so characteristic of the Left. There is not one shred of evidence for a biological, i.e. genetic, foundation for homosex behaviour. How can we move forward so long as one side insists that the other side must occlude its vision about a scientific question?

    The genetic basis for homosex—about as believable as AGW.

    Ron, you are some out of date.

  51. Gerry O'Brien, Newfoundland, Canada Says:

    Ron:
    refer to last paragraph #48 above.

  52. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Remember Ron Smith’s “All PEOPLE” Anglican Church in Posting #27. Well, hear it comes—
    Gay marriage & Polygamy: Birds of a Feather?
    http://www.anglican-mainstream.net/?p=2053

    Hi, I am a Polyamist Christian!!!
    Hi, I am a Polyamist Bishop!!!

  53. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia. USA Says:

    Socialist, Liberal Perverted Activist Judge violates the State Constitutions separations of Powers and makes own law:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20531786/

  54. Gary Morrow, Dahlonega, Georgia Says:

    The answer to Socialist, Liberal, Progressive perverted Government Education—Baptists turn from public schools to private plans:
    http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories/090107/rel_090107095.shtml

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