Moving Slowly With Caution Isn't Stopping - AAC Commentary on the Special Commission Repo

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American Anglican Council (AAC) Commentary on “One Baptism, One Hope in God’s Call”
The Report of the Special Commission on the Episcopal Church and the Anglican Communion


Introduction

The Special Commission on the Episcopal Church USA (ECUSA) and the Anglican Communion has released its report, “One Baptism, One Hope in God’s Call,” which includes 11 resolutions recommended for consideration at General Convention.  The commission was charged with “preparing the way” for General Convention 2006, which will discuss “maintaining communion” in light of decisions at General Convention 2003 and the ensuing crisis.  Recent suggestions in some of the media, blogs, and communication from various bishops that ECUSA might change course appear to be unfounded based on the commission report.  ECUSA’s compliance with the stated expectations of the Anglican Communion, including the Windsor Report (issued by the Lambeth Commission, October 2004) and Primates’ Communiqué (issued at the Primates’ Meeting, Dromantine, February 2005), would incorporate a call to repentance for decisions and actions that are contrary to Scripture and Christian teaching; a strong affirmation of Christian tenets of faith and an acknowledgement that Anglicanism upholds Scripture as the central authority on matters of doctrine; a recommendation for the immediate cessation of ordination and consecration of non-celibate homosexuals as well as for same-sex blessings; and a clear call for the Episcopal Church to embrace Lambeth 1.10 as the appropriate consensus for the Communion.

The commission report, however, does not represent such compliance.  While it expresses a commitment to live in “the highest degree of communion possible” (Paragraphs 24-25; Resolution A159), the report bases a claim of compliance with the Windsor Report upon expressions of regret that ECUSA’s actions have caused pain, the House of Bishops’ moratorium on approval of all episcopal elections, and the fact that General Convention has not approved official rites for same-sex blessings.  Underlying the report is a promise of fudging the issue as well as an underlying message that the Scriptural view of sexuality is antiquated and that the current consensus of the Anglican Communion, with its affirmation of the authority of Scripture and Lambeth 1.10, is no longer acceptable and should be replaced. In short, the report does not reflect the mind of the Anglican Communion with regard to these issues, nor does it comply with the spirit and word of the Windsor Report or the Primates’ Communiqué.  It is, therefore, inadequate.

Historical Perspective

In order to understand the report and its significance, it is necessary to frame its historic context.  For over 30 years before the 1998 Lambeth Conference, some in the Episcopal Church began embracing revisionist theology that challenged basic tenets of Christian faith, such as the divinity of Christ, the doctrine of the Trinity, the Virgin Birth, the reality of Christ’s Resurrection, and the authority of Scripture. This slippery slope of heterodoxy went largely unchallenged by ECUSA or the Anglican Communion.  In the wake of postmodernism, which denies absolute truth and espouses relativism, and the sexual revolution, the Episcopal Church gradually undermined Scriptural and traditional teaching on marriage and morality, particularly regarding sexuality.

In the decades immediately preceding Lambeth 1998, the Anglican Church in the Global South grew in size and stature, and at the Lambeth Conference, Global South leaders found their voice and exerted strong leadership and influence. As a result, bishops gathered at Lambeth recognized the threat to the faith once delivered, and an overwhelming majority voted for Lambeth 1.10 (526-70 with 45 abstentions), a resolution upholding Scriptural and traditional teaching on marriage and human sexuality.

The outrage from ECUSA was immediate.  John Spong, then Bishop of Newark, said Global South leaders had “moved out of animism into a very superstitious kind of Christianity”; Frederick Borsch, then Bishop of Los Angeles, said that the bishops meeting at Lambeth were not “well-informed and wholly guided by the Holy Spirit on this issue;” and numerous revisionist bishops signed a letter authored by Bishop Ronald Haines of the Diocese of Washington apologizing to gays and lesbians for the pain caused by Lambeth 1.10.  General Convention 2003 was the culmination of a “revolution in stages” in which revisionist leaders sought forcefully to abandon and undermine the apostolic faith of Scripture and Anglicanism.  For this perspective to be validated, Scripture would need to be re-written or dismissed in order to promote the new gospel.  General Convention 2003 greatly advanced this goal by defeating a resolution that affirmed the authority of Scripture and basic tenets of Christian faith (House of Bishops, Resolution B001); approving a resolution declaring that “local faith communities are operating within the bounds of our common life as they explore and experience liturgies celebrating and blessing same-sex unions” (Resolution C051); and affirming the election for bishop of V. Gene Robinson, a partnered homosexual.  It is critical to understand that while the flashpoint issue at General Convention was sexuality, the crisis of belief within the Episcopal Church is far deeper and is centered on a challenge to the authority of Scripture and the person of Jesus Christ as the one and only means of salvation.

The Anglican Communion has decried the actions of ECUSA while upholding Lambeth 1.10 as the authoritative mind of the Communion, and has warned ECUSA that failure to reverse its course will result in severe consequences.  The Episcopal Church was instructed to choose to walk together or walk apart from historic Anglicanism.

ECUSA’s official response to Paragraph 135 of the Windsor Report, “To Set Our Hope on Christ,” was presented to the Anglican Consultative Council (ACC) meeting in Nottingham (June 2005).  This document justifies their decisions and actions as led by the Spirit, argues that faith must be understood within specific cultural contexts, upholds their actions as prophetic, labels consecration of non-celibate homosexuals and same-sex blessings as justice issues, and emphasizes the need for a new consensus within the Anglican Communion.  While the House of Bishops expressed regret over division caused by their actions and for breaking the bonds of affection (“A Covenant Statement of the House of Bishops,” March 15, 2005), rites for same-sex blessings are being developed in at least seven dioceses, and numerous blessings of same-sex unions have been reported.  In an act of outright defiance, the Diocese of California’s list of nominees for bishop includes three partnered homosexuals.


General Analysis of the Report

Theological Foundation:

The report begins with a “biblical and theological basis for ECUSA’s understanding of communion.” In the introduction, the commission describes communion as formed through Baptism and in the Eucharist, sacraments making all those who partake members, “brothers and sisters,” in an indissoluble community.  In this community, unity becomes the greatest good and highest goal, and the unforgivable sin is division caused by disagreement.  The report neither acknowledges nor defines “communion” in terms of a common faith centered on creedal elements such as the doctrines of sin, repentance, salvation and reconciliation through faith in Christ, transformation, or sanctification.  Rather, bonds of affection unite ECUSA in the fellowship of the Communion (Paragraph 38).

According to the report, unity is based not on God’s revealed and eternal Truth, but rather is attained at the expense of truth.  Behavior reflects belief, and if truth is relative, so is behavior.  As long as one is a member through the rites of Baptism and Eucharist, one can believe what one chooses and behave accordingly. In the report, the sacraments of Baptism and Eucharist, traditionally understood as efficacious based on a personal, saving, transforming relationship with Jesus Christ, are subtly elevated to equality with salvation.  Revisionist proponents of such thinking would have been opposed to the very idea of ecumenical councils of the early Church because these councils would not accept individual theological beliefs contrary to revealed Truth.  Heresy, for revisionists, is not viable unless it is the heresy of disunity and “exclusivity,” and yet such an assertion is historically indefensible.  Although the Episcopal Church by its actions has caused schism domestically and internationally, it focuses on those who uphold orthodoxy as divisive.

In Paragraph 13, the commission clearly indicates that healing and reconciliation will involve a new understanding of traditional teaching: “What means are available for recognizing God’s will when it requires reinterpretation of scriptural texts?” A footnote on this question refers to Jesus’ “controversy with scriptural experts of his day over interpretation” of various Old Testament texts and implies that this gives us permission to rewrite Scripture, reminiscent of Bishop of Pennsylvania Charles Bennison’s statement: “[We] wrote the Bible, and we can rewrite it.  We have rewritten the Bible many times.”

The report clearly demonstrates that the major issue before the Anglican Communion is far deeper than sexuality.  One of the weaknesses of the Windsor Report is that it did not address the House of Bishops’ failure to affirm B001 (the resolution considered during General Convention 2003 which upheld basic tenets of Christian teaching and the authority of Scripture).  Dismissal of traditional teaching and practice on human sexuality is a direct result of ECUSA’s abandonment of Scriptural authority.

Expression of Regret:

The committee declares a strong desire to remain in communion, expresses regret for straining the bonds of communion, and asserts that ECUSA has thereby met the standard required for walking together. While the report notes that the consecration of a non-celibate homosexual “raised many questions” (Paragraph 13), the commission does not acknowledge that decisions of General Convention 2003 are in fact contrary to Scripture, tradition and reason, and, therefore, outside the bounds of Christian teaching and practice (Paragraphs 33-35).  Rather, the report focuses on the regrettable fact that actions of ECUSA have “breached the bonds of affection” of the Communion.  The report expresses only regret for this breach and not repentance or even regret for the decisions and actions themselves (Resolution A160). The implication is that the commission regrets only a precipitous move before a necessary redefining of consensus.  Paragraph 38 offers a very interesting distinction between expressions of regret and repentance:

Statements of regret seem to be immediate signs of the desire to remain in communion, while expression of repentance seems a collective process… We also believe General Convention’s consideration of such expressions of regret and repentance will provide clear evidence of our desire to reaffirm the bonds of affection that unite us in the fellowship of the Anglican Communion.

The Anglican Communion Instruments of Unity have expressed expectations for repentance of actions taken, as well as amendment of life marked by adherence to Lambeth 1.10.


Election of Bishops:

Based on the commission’s theological foundation and the need for a new consensus, the report does not call for a moratorium on consecrations of non-celibate homosexuals; rather, the committee urges only “the exercise of very considerable caution” with regard to the election and consecration of an individual “living in a same gender union” (Paragraph 51 and Resolution A161).  Such a recommendation for caution seems intended to buy immediate goodwill within the Communion and time to change consensus.  In addition, the commission commends the response of the House of Bishops regarding the Windsor Report’s call for a moratorium.  In their March 2005 Pastoral Letter, ECUSA bishops claimed they lack the authority to impose such a moratorium on dioceses but pledged to withhold consent for the consecration of any individual elected to the episcopate prior to General Convention 2006.

The report not only fails to call for a moratorium on future consecrations of partnered homosexuals, but also claims that a moratorium by definition is intended to be temporary, in this instance, pending a new consensus developed during a period of prayer and study (Paragraph 48).  The commission members “gratefully note” responses to the Windsor Report expressing diversity and inclusivity regarding human sexuality (Paragraph 48).

Public Rites of Blessings for Same-Sex Unions:

The commission obfuscates the issue of blessings of same-sex unions and falls far short of a recommendation for an immediate moratorium.  First, the commission “expressly denies” that C051, the resolution recognizing that “local faith communities are operating within the bounds of our common life as they explore and experience liturgies celebrating and blessing same-sex unions,” which was approved at General Convention 2003, represents authorization of official rites for same-sex blessings.  The report argues that only liturgies included in authorized ECUSA worship publications (Book of Common Prayer, 1979; the Book of Occasional Services, 2003; and Enriching Our Worship 1 and 2, 1997 and 2000) can be considered authorized or official.  For the commission, then, compliance with the Windsor Report is centered on official rites rather than widely practiced, though non-official, liturgies.  It is true that General Convention of the Episcopal Church has not adopted or developed official rites, but it is equally true that blessings of same-sex unions (for clergy and lay partners) routinely occur in churches and at homes and do in fact incorporate liturgy.  The report neglects to cite that several dioceses have developed, or are in the process of developing, rites, and at least two bishops (John Chane, Diocese of Washington, and Jon Bruno, Diocese of Los Angeles) have personally performed blessings of same-sex unions.  To suggest that “no official rite” equals “no blessings of same-sex unions” and non-liturgy is disingenuous at best.  With or without official rites, C051 offered ECUSA’s stamp of approval on blessings of same-sex unions as liturgical practice within the church.

The report recommends that bishops refrain from authorizing rites but does not call for a moratorium on such rites or on the practice of blessing same-sex unions.  In addition, the report expresses commitment to “ ‘a breadth of private response to situations of individual pastoral care’ ” (Paragraph 53).  The commission is referencing a phrase included in a Pastoral Letter issued by Anglican Communion Primates at their meeting in Brazil in May 2003 (also quoted in the Windsor Report, Paragraph 143). In the letter’s section on human sexuality, the Primates emphasize that they could not “support the authorization” of blessings of same-sex unions, noting the Archbishop of Canterbury’s assertion that “it is through liturgy that we express what we believe.” The Primates are clearly concerned that authentic Christian pastoral care be extended to all people, regardless of their sexuality, however, and the pastoral letter goes on to say that:

This is distinct from the duty of pastoral care that is laid upon all Christians to respond with love and understanding to people of all sexual orientations. As recognised in the booklet “True Union”, it is necessary to maintain a breadth of private response to situations of individual pastoral care.

The Primates’ reference to “True Union” is key, as it establishes an accurate context for the Pastoral Letter.  In “True Union”, a paper commissioned by Archbishop Drexel Gomez, scholars express a strong argument against blessings of same-sex unions, whether officially and unofficially:

The union of physical bodies can affect the union of the ecclesial Body. Something which seems so small and immaterial can evidently have an explosive effect. Policy about sexual behaviour is not just a private matter. (6.24)

…it would be preferable if within the Communion as a whole a moratorium could be placed on actions in this area which seek to alter the traditional public teaching and practice of the Christian Church. (6.18)

The emphasis of the paper, as well as the Primates’ Pastoral Letter and the Windsor Report, is that practice (official and unofficial) must be consistent with the teaching of Scripture and the Communion.  The commission, however, intentionally misrepresents and distorts the clear meaning of these documents, taking them out of context and applying them to support revisionist teaching and practice.  Paragraph 53 of the report states, “The Episcopal Church has authorized no other rites. We remain, however, committed to maintaining ‘a breadth of private response to situations of individual pastoral care.’ ” Resolution A162 opens with a call to “maintain a breadth of private response to situations of pastoral care,” implying that such “pastoral care” includes turning a corporate blind eye to blessings of same-sex unions or actually performing such blessings (Paragraph 53 and Resolution A162).  The resolution recommends not proceeding with authorization but says nothing about practice of liturgies being conducted in Episcopal churches.

Commitment to Windsor and Listening Process:

The report frames its resolution regarding the Windsor Report by focusing on the Listening Process.  The commission’s report repeatedly references “a new consensus” and identifies the Listening Process as a significant tool for reframing the argument and redefining the consensus of the Communion and highly recommends “To Set Our Hope on Christ” as a significant resource for the Listening Process.  Both “To Set Our Hope on Christ” and the commission report focus on the Listening Process as a means to change the mind of the Communion and to develop new consensus, which would ultimately embrace and affirm the new gospel of revisionism (Paragraphs 63-65, Resolution A 165).

Anglican Covenant:

Paragraph 72 of the report commends the concept of an Anglican Covenant recommended by the Windsor Report as a means of interdependence in the Communion, but notes three varieties of covenant emphasis – canonical/structural (Windsor Report), doctrinal/confessional (Primates), and missional/relational (Anglican Consultative Council).  The report includes a sample covenant which focuses on mission rather than a doctrinal/confessional model. Obviously a covenant based on traditional, apostolic teaching and practice would be inconsistent with the commission’s desire for a new consensus in the Communion. The report’s recommended resolution (Resolution A166) only calls on ECUSA to “follow the development processes and report to Executive Council.” Is this non-committal resolution designed to protect ECUSA should a binding, historically based covenant with a creedal/doctrinal focus be crafted?

Summation

The Episcopal Church was given an opportunity to choose to walk together with the Communion – to choose this day whom it will serve. “One Baptism, One Hope in God’s Call” does not call ECUSA to affirm and conform to the traditional teaching and practice of the Anglican Communion.  Instead, it advances revisionism while claiming a desire to remain in the Communion. The “autonomy-in-communion” pleaded for in the Windsor Report is reduced to mean simply “autonomy” in terms of ECUSA’s teaching and practice. Having been asked to stop and reconsider, ECUSA is rebelliously insisting that they go slowly, but remain on the same course. The trajectory of the leadership of the Episcopal Church remains on that very course of revisionism, and it seems nearly impossible that General Convention 2006 will change the course.  We will continue to pray for a miracle, because only the truth sets us free.

Sources

“One Baptism, One Hope in God’s Call,” The Special Commission on the Episcopal Church and the Anglican Communion, April 2005 (Appendix includes Primates’ Dromantine Communiqué and pertinent text from the Windsor Report).

http://www.episcopalchurch.org/documents/SCECACReport.pdf

“To Set Our Hope on Christ: A Response to the Invitation of Windsor Report Paragraph 135,” June 2005.

http://www.anglicanlistening.org/

“True Union,” January 2003.

http://www.americananglican.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=ikLUK3MJIpG&b=687991&ct=1254205

Primates’ Pastoral Letter, Brazil, May 2003.

http://www.anglicancommunion.org/acns/articles/34/50/acns3450.html

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Date: 4/18/2006Introduction

    Comments & Responses

  1. From the above article: “...the crisis of belief within the Episcopal Church is far deeper and is centered on a challenge to the authority of Scripture and the person of Jesus Christ as the one and only means of salvation.” I can show on this website examples of Christ’s own words being dismissed in favor of the disciples. Scriptural agreement not centered on the actual teachings of Christ Jesus should be questioned by all members of the communion.

    “In an act of outright defiance, the Diocese of California’s list of nominees for bishop includes three partnered homosexuals.” Has the Diocese of California told any other Province in the Anglican Communion how to elect its’ own bishops? The answer is NO. Why then should another Province be concerned about the electors decision made in the Diocese of California?

    “In the report, the sacraments of Baptism and Eucharist, traditionally understood as efficacious based on a personal, saving, transforming relationship with Jesus Christ, are subtly elevated to equality with salvation.” That is all we affirm in our Baptismal Covenant within ECUSA. Other Provinces may make any rule that pleases them in how membership is defined in that Province.

    “First, the commission “expressly denies” that C051, the resolution recognizing that “local faith communities are operating within the bounds of our common life as they explore and experience liturgies celebrating and blessing same-sex unions,” which was approved at General Convention 2003, represents authorization of official rites for same-sex blessings.  The report argues that only liturgies included in authorized ECUSA worship publications...” The Commision can not null legislation passed by the General Convention. Other Provinces may have autocratic rulers, however, ECUSA is governed by corporate authority representing all levels of the church.

    “The report’s recommended resolution (Resolution A166) only calls on ECUSA to “follow the development processes and report to Executive Council.” Is this non-committal resolution designed to protect ECUSA should a binding, historically based covenant with a creedal/doctrinal focus be crafted? “ How can ECUSA or any other Province bind themselves to document that is not yet written or affirmed by all the Provinces?

    Posted by  on  04/19  at  10:26 AM
  2. Your comment, “Scriptural agreement not centered on the actual teachings of Christ Jesus should be questioned by all members of the communion” is quite unAnglican and betrays a misunderstanding of how we are to handle God’s word. One of the formularies of Anglicanism known as the “Articles of Religion” quite clearly provides us with guidance on where the Church derives its authority to “decree Rites or Ceremonies.” It is found in Article 20 (page 871 of ECUSA’s Book of Common Prayer).

    It reads: “it is not lawful for the church to order anything contrary to God’s written Word. Nor may it expound one passage of scripture so that it contradicts another passage.” This is based on the principle that we use Scripture to interpret Scripture.

    I realize that there are some in ECUSA who insist that since The Church gave us the bible, it should have the authority to revise it as it wishes. But that argument is as true as saying “the postman gave us the letter” so he should be able to rewrite it as he sees fit!

    The rest of Article 20 says:
    “So, although the church is a witness and guardian to holy Scripture, it must not decree anything contrary to Scripture, nor is it to enforce belief in anything additional to Scripture as essential to salvation.”

    This is the contention of those of us who wish to continue in the “Faith once delivered.”

    Posted by  on  04/21  at  12:57 PM
  3. Thank You Jon. This is a point I’ve been trying to make as well on another site. Amoung the younger Episcopalians, the view is that we don’t have to abide by the Articles of Religion. That they have been relegated to historical documents. This is what they are being taught in their parishes.

    I do my best to convince them otherwise.

    Mick

    Posted by  on  04/21  at  07:53 PM
  4. From the above postings

    “...the Articles of Religion. That they have been relegated to historical documents. This is what they are being taught in their parishes.”

    They are only historical documents in ECUSA. They were incorporated into the 1801 Book of Common Prayer as a reference point for teaching to the newly created chruch in America (ECUSA).

    The Church of England used it as a legal statement of faith within its’ state established church. ECUSA did not make it a ‘legal’ document. The 1979 Book of Common Prayer is the binding and offical statement of ECUSA on The Articles of Religion. It is printed to show the historical development of the faith over time.

    We take no vow(s) to believe that the Articles of Religion is dogma in ECUSA. Everthing that we must believe is found in our Baptismal Covenant. Our Baptismal Covenant is the only required basis of our faith and membership in ECUSA.

    Posted by  on  04/21  at  09:41 PM
  5. mccabe

    The entire statment:

    “Amoung the younger Episcopalians, the view is that we don’t have to abide by the Articles of Religion. That they have been relegated to historical documents. This is what they are being taught in their parishes.”

    You say:

    “Everthing that we must believe is found in our Baptismal Covenant. Our Baptismal Covenant is the only required basis of our faith and membership in ECUSA.”

    You are wrong.

    First the covenant you speak of is new along with the 1979 BCP. And from what I’ve seen from all of your views is that while they keep crying “Baptismal Covenant” they don’t follow even that. What is in the covenant you speak of is a part of the confirmation rites I went through.

    The reason the 39 Articles were abandoned is because they prohibit the heritical Bishops from doing just what they’ve done.

    The tital page, in the 1928 BCP is:
    Articles of Religion

    As established by the Bishops, the Clergy, and the Laity of the Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America, in Convention, on the twelfth day of September, in the Year of our Lord 1801.

    This doesn’t seem to me to mean that they have no value but that the revisionists want to get them out of the way because they wanted to violate the basic foundation and beliefs of the church.

    You twist history to say they were never a legal document. The afore stated comment on the tital page of a legitimet BCP proves that.

    Posted by  on  04/21  at  10:20 PM
  6. Please note that the Baptismal Covenant is a service by itself. It is also a part of the Confirmation Service. It is also a part of the Great Vigil of Easter Service. If you attend church on any regular basis you would know that the congregartion repeats the Covenant in each of these services. It is the same statement of faith in any case.

    Please note the following Preface from 1789 is included in the offical 1979 Book of Common Prayer:

    The Book of Common Prayer (1789)

    “Preface

    It is a most invaluable part of that blessed “liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free,” that in his worship different forms and usages may
    without offence be allowed, provided the substance of the Faith be kept entire; and that, in every Church, what cannot be clearly determined to
    belong to Doctrine must be referred to Discipline; and therefore, by common consent and authority, may be altered, abridged, enlarged, amended, or otherwise disposed of, as may seem most convenient for the edification of the people, “according to the various exigency of times and occasions.”

    Posted by  on  04/21  at  11:01 PM
  7. mccabe

    Do you have a 1789 BCP to compair this with what was originally written. If not how do you know is was transcribed accuratly. The 1979 BCP has too many changes to the basic doctrine and tradition of the church to be valid. Most pronounced are the 2 rites. The church cannot be split this way and survive. The only hope is a return to the BCP and Hymnal used in the early 50’s before all this false doctrine got started. Then the ECUSA has a chance. Rember that within the ECUSA you are amoung a pitiful 20% that want this secular church that has no guidance, no direction and no God.

    Posted by  on  04/23  at  12:06 AM
  8. Marlin, Is it possible for you to ever make a positive comment about ECUSA? You look up the 1789 BCP if you want to waste your own time.

    Why do you think that The Articles of Religion is a statement of dogma in ECUSA? If you are actually a member of ECUSA then you know that is not true. It is not dogma to us. Like it or not, our Baptismal Covenant (that includes the creed) alone is dogma in ECUSA. All of the services cited above define the basis of faith we are required to believe in and vow to uphold as our faith.

    The rest:

    “must be referred to (as) Discipline; and therefore, by common consent and authority, may be altered, abridged, enlarged, amended, or otherwise disposed of, as may seem most convenient for the edification of the people, “according to the various exigency of times and occasions.”

    Is that clear enough on the second reading Marlin. Do a Google Search for the online version and read it for yourself.

    Posted by  on  04/23  at  12:24 PM
  9. mccabe

    I comapir the 39 Articles to the constitution of the U.S.. The 39 Articles are the constitution of the church. They limit what the church can do and cannot do. Article 20 states that the church cannot ordain anyting contrary to scripture and the current situation in the church with Robenson violates scripture. The new doctrine of the ECUSA violates scripture. The entire world church has said this.

    If the church returns to a more orthodox doctrine and rejects the 1979 BCP and new Hymnal then I will have nothing but praise for the church and the Bishops behind the restitution. If it keeps going along the lines it is going then eventually it will be completely destroyed. I think that would be a tragety. And all because of a few power mad Bishops that have seazed the seats of power and won’t recant.

    My Episcopal Church has been invaded, taken over, and is being destroyed by false teachers, teaching a false doctrine that violates God’s law, his word, and is in violation of it’s own rules given in the 39 articles.

    There is a petiton circulating that calls the bishops that voted for Robenson to recant, resign, or face church law. 100’s of the laity are signing it every day. We’ll see what happens when the lay people of the church have their say.

    The website is http://www.layepiscopal.org/

    If you don’t believe see for yourself.

    Posted by  on  04/23  at  08:10 PM
  10. Marlin and Jon

    Thanks for remembering Proverbs 26:5

    “Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes”

    Rafe

    Posted by  on  04/28  at  01:31 AM
  11. Rafe

    Amen to that. Most of these whiny liberals allways fall back on the Baptismal covenant. It’s like some kind of mantra with them. It also is a cover so they don’t have to answer some of the more difficult questions to them. Like the grosse secularism in the church.

    Mat 15:7-9

    7) Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
    8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
    9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.(secular law)

    That covers it well I think.

    Posted by  on  04/28  at  02:22 AM
  12. Jesus said, “The first commandment is this: Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is the only Lord. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all yourmind, and with all your strength.

    The second is this: Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no other commandment greater than these.” Mark 12:29‑31

    Do you still have trouble hearing the words of Christ the King?

    Posted by  on  04/28  at  12:53 PM
  13. Mat 15:7-9 is the words of our Lord and Saviour. read the passage again mccabe, it suits you to a tee.

    Posted by  on  04/28  at  06:13 PM
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